Oorgo

Quit the commute, walk to groceries, fork over the dough for green power, quit bottled water.

Yep...for sure. That first and second are the hardest. Here in Albert it's bloody hard to find a job where you can get decent money that's on a bus route or close to where you live. THEN try finding a house near a grocery store.

I can't just sell my house to spend 4 times what I did originally on a new one only to be in debt for the rest of my life. To move closer to work, and as Pommie says, 'The IT industry sleeps with itself', it's a small market.

All of these excuses... look at me... making up excuses

All you can do is what you can personally do. I still think you're being way too alarmist about this, because the climate of the planet is always changing. It's on a slight upswing right now, while thirty years ago it was trending down. Bitching about your neighbors is just stressing yourself, especially since China plans to open one new coal-fired power plant each week for the next decade or so and along with India are on track to soon drop the USA to #3 on the list of polluting countries. Kyoto exempts them because of their "developing" status. Europe signed up for Kyoto, and then promptly ignored it, I think Canada did too.

I'm not saying that global warming isn't happening, because it has for half of Earth's history. I've yet to see convincing evidence that mankind is responsible, especially considering how often it happened before we were around.

For the record I think we ARE contributing negatively to the enviornment. Having said that, have you seen this BBC video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttV2C6B8pU

I like Pam's comment.

"Man is nothing else but what he purposes, he exists only in so far as he realises himself, he is therefore nothing else but the sum of his actions, nothing else but what his life is. In life, a man commits himself, draws his own portrait and there is nothing but that portrait." - Satre

i.e. If you're truly concerned about the environment do something other than bitch. From what I can tell you don't do anything on a personal level... which is fine but then don't bitch about it.

Telling my kid to stay away from drugs while me and the wife get trashed on wine every weekend isn't going to be effective.

Lead by example Mr. Oorgo, otherwise you're just as annoying and less honest than the hummer drivers.

Joe you amuse me... I like how you call me names on my blog but don't have the guts to put any real contact information, both times that you have posted here. Unless of course you have something to do with 'The St. Joe Company, Florida Real Estate'.

btw... I owned up to not being pristine in my practises, now you have to own up to driving a hummer.

Bitch cannot even spell Sartre.

I recall that my job was barely on a bus route, but it was that or cab. Some people biked.

Edmonton bus routes were created by spiders on caffeine, they are erratic and nonsensical. I think if I wanted to bus it would be well over an hour to get to work and more to get home, if I road a bike I'm guessing hour - hour and a half.

Even with an extensive public transportation system it can take forever to commute. My son busses/metros to work, and at his last job it was between and hour and a half to two and a half hours each way, depending on the day and traffic.

At the new job, he may adjust his hours to ride in with me in the morning and then hop a short metro to his workplace. He'll have to make his own way home, but the morning ride will save him some significant bucks over time.

A lot of people here do the hybrid thing: drive to the closest metro station and ride in from there. Every little bit helps.